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Hypomania and Friendship
2007-07-13 02:01:00
As most of you who have been reading my blog these last few weeks know, I've been hypomanic. The worst symptom has been "talking too much," and I've got to admit that although I try to control it, I'm not always successful.The most surefire way to control it is to refrain from being with people. But after spending months alone during a depression, the last thing I want to do is to be alone just because I'm a bit too talkative.In a way, I think it's just one of those symptoms that people may not like, but there's a part of me who truly doesn't think it's all that bad. When I'm depressed, I may not see my friends for five or six months. So...when I'm hypomanic, I don't see that it's all that terrible if I talk a bit too much.For a few years, when I noticed I was talking too much, usually after the fact, I would call and apologize. I'd say something like, "When I thought about our lunch together, I realize that I dominated the conversation. It's a sign of hypomania and
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Some Thoughts on Bipolar Mood Disorder
2007-07-12 02:01:00
I started this series in response to a comment by Carla who's medication resistant, undergoing a depression, and in need of advice. I felt compelled to write to her because I know what it's like to be diagnosed as bipolar, fail to get better after taking tons of different medication, receive little to no help from psychiatrists, read the most depressing stuff online, know that medication-resistant patients are the most difficult to treat, and try to survive while experiencing the devastation of a depression.While my advice is for Carla, it's really much broader than that. After a decade of being very ill with bipolar mood disorder--and believing what my psychiatrists said, which is that it's biochemical in nature and there's not much I could do to "cure myself" other than find the right medication--I no longer adhere to that philosophy at all.Now, I must state upfront that I come to this illness from the depressive side. It's quite possible that if my initial depressive episo
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Who's Mentally Ill?
2007-07-17 10:11:00
Yesterday I felt overwhelmed by "mentally ill" behavior by so-called "normal" people. Three episodes stand out.Episode 1My mother had a tear in her leg. Her skin is very thin but this was a particularly bad one. There has been a problem with her new doctor at her assisted living facility, and a problem with the head nurse. I had everything under control and was handling it. Out of nowhere, my sister--who's a control freak--once again felt the need to undermine my authority and take over.Episode 2I was taking both of our dogs on leashes for a walk. My 24 pound terrier was attacked by a pit bull. As the pit bull had my dog's paw in his mouth, his owner started screaming at me that her dog doesn't bite.Episode 3A month ago a friend's mother fell and broke her arm and pelvis. My friend's brother and his wife who allegedly came to help--didn't--and then stole all of the staples in my friend's mother's guest house and refrigerator on their way out of town.I ask you: Who's m


Bipolar Writers and Friends
2007-07-16 02:01:00
Today I had planned on posting a review of Howard Freeman's (he's better known on these pages as dootz from SurfCountry) new book: Lullabye: Memories, Madness, and Midnight Snacks. I've read it. I love it. But I've had some family issues this weekend and have only finished writing half of the review. You can read about it here in a few days or go ahead and buy it on amazon.com. Howard is a talented essayist and I think you'll love his book.Next week, I'll post my review of Riding the Roller Coaster: Living with Mood Disorders by Marja Bergen. I'm sure that most of you know her from her blog, Roller Coaster. She, too, is a talented writer (and photographer and artist). Her book is one of the most positive books I've ever read on mood disorder. And if you're interested in spirituality, it's a must for your library.The best thing about this blog is meeting a group of soul mates with whom to discuss my symptoms as well as a group of friends I truly like. So, thank you
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Bipolar Writers and Friends
2007-07-01 02:01:00
Today, I had intended to post a review of Howard Freeman's (better known on these pages as dootz from SurfCountry) new book, Lullabye: Memories, Madness, and Midnight Snacks. But, while I've written about half of it, I had some family issues this weekend and won't have it for another few days. Still, I do want to recommend his book. He's a talented essayist and you can buy a copy of it at Amazon.com. This week or next, I also plan on writing a review of Marja Bergen's book, Riding the Roller Coaster: Living with Mood Disorders. While I've just read a few chapters, from when I've read so far, this is one of the only positive books I've ever read on mood disorder. And Marja is not only a talented writer but as you can see from her site, Roller Coaster, a wonderful photographer and artist.One of the very best things about writing this blog has been the relationships I've developed. After so many years of feeling so alone with this illness, I now have a small group of peop
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Staving Off a Depression
2007-07-20 02:01:00
After years of experience, I know that the past few weeks could precipitate a depression if I’m not careful. Today, I was totally and completely exhausted and spent much of the day editing my manuscript and sleeping. For me, this is a smart move because if I don’t slow myself down, I can become depressed. If I can’t find a way to replenish myself, I can become depressed.Again, for me the causes of a depression are a mixed bag. Extended hypomanias—even ones that are fairly benign—zap my energy. It feels like I’m giving a lot of myself to people and it’s draining.While I love playing the Autoharp at my mom’s, it’s also quite exhausting. Not only do I perform, which I enjoy, but I also have to help many of the residents turn the pages of their song books and I find myself jumping up and down for almost 90 minutes.Driving my mom up the coast was draining as well. As much as I hoped it would renew her spirits, it didn’t. And as much as I enjoyed myself, it was stressful.


Telling The Truth
2007-07-19 02:01:00
Do you think that BIPS require that people tell them the truth more than "normal" folks? It's something I've wondered about for years. Ever since I was a kid, I've hated it when people lie to me. I would rather someone say, "I really can't be your friend any more," rather than ignoring me.While being truthful is a quality I admire, it's not one I could always engage in. I used to think it was better to "walk away" than to tell someone something unpleasant. I used to find it impossibly difficult to say, "I have a problem with your behavior," or "I can't do that (whatever) because it's not consistent with my morals and values."I believe I was able to change for two reasons. The first is therapy. While my therapist never diagnosed my illness, she did help me learn how to express my emotions honestly and openly. The second is surviving 120 depressive episodes. During the worst of these periods, I felt like each time I "came back," it was if I had survived a death-like experien
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Blogging to Heal (Part 2)
2007-07-18 19:42:00
When I arrived at my mom's assisted living facility, she was in fairly bad shape, and I decided to take her for a drive. Her facility is located on a bluff overlooking the Pacific Ocean and she has an amazing view.Before we left, I talked to the head administrator. I learned that the nurse hadn't just left but was going back to school and taking on a new position elsewhere. I explained my concerns. She said that the doctor is very receptive to their nurses and she appreciates it. I still told her that I felt he was pompous, he hadn't returned my phone calls promptly, and he'd never examined her--none of which was acceptable to me.Still, I said I would meet with him to explain my expectations and to see if he can meet them. I also said that I felt bad when I had expressed my concerns to the nurse, planned on meeting him last Friday, and wasn't told that he was leaving.While she didn't respond (don't you just hate it when people can't say, "I'm sorry. He should have told
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Blogging to Heal (Part 1)
2007-07-18 02:01:00
Perhaps I mentioned that my mother has a new doctor at her assisted living facility who was recommended by the former head nurse. However, when the doctor saw my mother for the first time--in the facility itself--he didn't do a physical examination. And I found that very curious.At the time I didn't say anything because my mother doesn't like doctors very much and the entire experience was quite stressful (for me). I had to keep my mother calm, oversee the visit, be the liaison with the head nurse, and deal with a doctor who seemed like a pompous jerk from the get-go.My sister was there for this doctor's second visit. He didn't examine my mother this time either. He did bill Medicare $250 for a ten minute visit. They paid $20. I decided this doctor is probably running a scam. I plan on reporting him to Medicare.What so distressed me was that he was recommended by the nurse, who I've known, liked, and trusted for more than a year.Later, when I thought about the nurse's r
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Mixed States
2007-07-24 02:01:00
Dear Bipolar Wellness Readers,Marie wrote a comment on my post from yesterday. She is currently experiencing a mixed state of hypomania and depression. While I've read about it, I've never experienced it. So...if you do or have, I'd appreciate it if you'd either share your experience with Marie or you'd suggest other sites she might visit.Marie, my first suggestion would be to contact your psychiatrist about this. In my experience, some of these problems are medication-induced--but that may just be me. As you know by now, in most cases, I'm the exception to the rule.My second suggestion is to do research. Off the top, I'd suggest Living Manic Depressive by our friend Jinnah, Dr. Phillip Long's Internet Mental Health, Dr. Goldberg's Depression Central, and McMan's Depression and Bipolar Web.If anyone has better suggestions or more personal information, please write ASAP.Thanks,SusanP.S. Marie, I was just checking out some blogs from my blogroll and visited Meredith's Th
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Hypomania: Irritability and Annoyance (Part 2)
2007-07-23 02:01:00
(The graphic on the left is from Ken Brown and is one of his stamps called, Fingers in Ears. If we all went around with our fingers in our ears, I guess we wouldn't know if someone was irritable and annoyed or not. It's something to consider.)From yesterday's comments, I guess that some people go through the irritable and annoyed phase and others don't. In my case, hypomanias actually consist of three phases.Phase 1: Increased energy. A extraordinary feeling of happiness with myself and the world. A very loving feeling towards the people I care about. An uncommon ability to get things done. A huge burst of energy from the moment I awaken until I go to bed. An expanded ability to multi-task. An organizational acuity that is second to none. A willingness to engage with people. A desire to spend more time with people I care about--and even those I don't. I've written about this in earlier posts so I won't dwell on it here.Phase 2: Increased irritability and annoyance. During
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Hypomania: Irritability and Annoyance
2007-07-22 16:15:00
Before I post today, I would like to thank the following people for their responses to my last posting: daryl darko, Micky, Marja, Terry, Gay Bipolar Guy, Cindy, Marie, and Carrie. I greatly appreciate your comments and concern.I think that one of the downsides of hypomania that we don't know enough about is the irritability and annoyance phase. I finally realized that I haven't been mildly depressed for the last few weeks: rather, I've been irritable and easily annoyed.Why is that? Perhaps together we can figure it out.Do you have these periods? When do you get them? Is it after or during hypomanic episodes? Do you suddenly feel that perhaps you've been giving too much and getting too little? Does something switch inside you? When do you realize that the pleasure of helping others has faded and you have needs you'd like someone else to fulfill?Do you ever think: I've been there for others. Who is there for me? Who is going to buoy me up when I feel a bit down? Who is
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My Ideal Doctor (Part 1)
2007-07-27 02:01:00
Yesterday, I posed the question: What would your ideal doctor be like? Thanks to daily dose, marja, gay biplar guy, and marie for responding. Next week, I'll share my thoughts more fully. For today, I would just like to say that I would hope my doctors would honor the Hippocratic Oath that was was written by Hippocrates, the father of medicine, in the 4th century B.C."I swear by Apollo, Asclepius, Hygieia, and Panacea, and I take to witness all the gods, all the goddesses, to keep according to my ability and my judgment, the following Oath. To consider dear to me, as my parents, him who taught me this art; to live in common with him and, if necessary, to share my goods with him; To look upon his children as my own brothers, to teach them this art I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone. To please no one will I prescribe a deadly drug nor give advice which may cause his death. Nor will I give a woman
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Our Doctors
2007-07-26 02:01:00
(The graphic is of Hippocrates, the "father of medicine.")Why is it that when we all have problems, and give each other suggestions, no one says, "I've talked to my doctor and he/she had this great advice for me."Do any of you--other than Marja--have doctors you like? Do you feel that they're knowledgeable about your illness? Are they knowledgeable about medication? Are they making good recommendations for wellness tips? Do they help you sort out issues relating to your illness?I'm just wondering. Although I genuinely like my current psychiatrist, I only see him a couple of times a year. One of the reasons is that I'm currently not carrying health insurance (I'm sure I've written about this earlier. After years of paying top dollar for lousy coverage, they canceled me when I tried to get more reasonable coverage. The reason? I'm medication resistant and don't use the typical bipolar medications. But that's a different issue.)Anyway, over the last 14 years, I've seen
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Blog-Free Weekend
2007-07-28 17:17:00
I'm spending the weekend outdoors and offline. I'm gardening...swimming laps...and taking pictures. (When I get a digital camera, I'll show you photographs of me.) Hope you're having a nice weekend!
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Serial Blogging: A Hypomanic Symptom
2007-08-01 10:41:00
I've decided that my newest hypomanic symptom is "serial blogging." I feel like I should go to a Bloggers Anonymous Meeting and say, "Hello, my name is Susan Bernard and I'm a serial blogger."Since March of this year, I've started four new blogs: Bipolar Wellness Writer, Honk If You Blog to Heal, John From Cincinnati, and Photography Learning (yesterday). In my defense, I've stopped writing two of them. I realized that writing two blogs is my limit.In the last six months, I've leaned a lot about myself from my blogging experiences. This blog provides the greatest satisfaction and while I sometimes wax and wane about writing it, I imagine I'll continue writing it for some time. Initially I thought my "Honk" blog would allow me to reach a broader audience of people who might not be bipolar but who write to heal and share my mission of concentrating on wellness rather than illness. After a few months, I decided that the "Honk" blog was too similar to this one. I stopped writin
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The Sound of Music
2007-07-31 02:01:00
Sometimes, a blogger reveals something personal that totally changes her reader's perception. Here goes...my favorite film of all time is The Sound of Music with Julie Andrews and Christopher Plummer. I've seen it as many times as my husband has seen The Godfather (Part 1, of course). and I know all the songs by heart.I tell you this because some days, no matter how well I'm feeling, I'm just off. Yesterday was one of those days. I've been waiting a week for a new prescription for my eyeglasses and I've been having a low-grade headache for the last few days. Also, I can't read as much as I usually do because I have blended lenses and needed a fairly strong change to the reading part of the glasses. So I couldn't work on my manuscript.I was recovering from all the emotion of Saturday night with my mother. I spent the morning at the optometrist, then went to the library and checked out five black-and-white photography books for me and five books on watercolors for my husba


Mama, Alex, and Me
2007-07-30 02:01:00
On Saturday afternoon, I took my 18-year-old-son Alex to visit my mother at her assisted living facility. I thought his visit would perk her up and so it did. But when we arrived, because she'd been sick to her stomach earlier in the day, she was in bed. When we walked in her room, her smile lit up her face, and tears came to mine. After weeks of a perpetually "off" mood, she was back to herself.She and Alex had a lovely chat but after an hour, I felt it was time to take him home. Still, I didn't feel like leaving my mother who looked so fragile and vulnerable. So I drove my son home, packed a sandwich, and picked up my Authoharp and music book, and returned to spend the evening with my mom.For the first few hours, I played my Autoharp while she was dozing. By the expression on her face, I could see she was enjoying the music. I could also tell that I was sitting far enough away that she couldn't see the tears that were steaming down my face. For some reason, I was a "baske


Thanking God
2007-08-03 14:24:00
My son had all four wisdom teeth taken out today. He's fine. It went really well. I'm posting the prayer I wrote in my diary to God. I'm very tired although I feel fine. I won't be online again until Monday--except to approve comments. Have a good weekend!Dear God,I'm so thankful that Alex's oral surgery went well. We scheduled it at the right time, three of his four teeth hadn't yet attached to his jaw, and the oral surgeon said it was "a piece of cake." Ordinarily, I'm not sure I would write you a thank you note for this although I'm so very grateful.But, as I lay down to take a nap, I realized how lucky I feel. A few years ago, it would have been difficult for me to have committed to an appointment in advance (Bernie would have had to take Alex if I didn't feel well.) Also, I couldn't have been able to accept a morning appointment (which was available at the last minute) because even on the "good" days, I couldn't awaken early because I was taking far too many s


Stress (Part 1)
2007-08-03 02:01:00
When I think back to 1993, when I was first diagnosed with this illness, I wish I had understood the impact of stress on bipolar mood disorder and on health in general. One of my favorite books on healing is Full Catastrophe Living: Using the Wisdom of Your Body and Mind to Face Stress, Pain, and Illness by Jon Kabat-Zinn, Ph.D.In the section on stress, Kabat-Zinn talks about Dr. Hans Selye who popularized the word "stress" in the 1950s. Kabat-Zinn writes: "Selye opted to define stress as a response, and he coined another word, stressor, to describe the stimulus or event that produced the stress response. He defined stress as 'the nonspecific response of the organism to any pressure or demand.'"In his terminology stress is the total response of your organism (mind and body) to whatever stressors you experience. But the picture is further complicated by the fact that the stressor can be an internal as well as an external occurrence or event. For instance, a thought or a feelin


Sleeping and Work
2007-08-02 10:26:00
Kira has a question that I'm attempting to answer but perhaps others have suggestions as well.Susan, What do you do when you notice that you are becoming hypomanic? I'm feeling frustrated because I can't do anything about my two main triggers for hypomania right now (job stress and insomnia), so the symptoms just keep getting worse and worse. I'm afraid that it will turn into agitated depression soon, and I don't know what to do to prevent a full blown episode. My current situation at work prevents me from taking any time off, and I can't sleep no matter how hard I try.KiraDear Kira,Sleep is a big problem during a hypomania. My doctors have always said it's very important to get at least 8 to 9 hours of sleep each night, and I've religiously followed their advice. Of course, it's very difficult during a hypomania.There are some natural ways to try to fall asleep, including making sure you exercise during the day so that you're more tired, taking a walk after dinner to calm
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Serial Blogging: A Hypomanic Symptom (Part 2)
2007-08-02 02:01:00
In terms of the responses to yesterday's blog, Kira said that before her diagnosis, she was so critical of herself because she moved from project to project and lacked focus. Tery discussed how much she can accomplish during "hypomanic states," and said there are "pros and cons" to hypomania. Marie said it was good that I paced myself and mentioned that she's starting another new blog.Of course, everyones' experience is different. Because my illness wasn't diagnosed until 25 years after my first depressive episode, I didn't realize I had a "problem." Although my interest in a subject (or a person) might fade, I always felt sorry for people who weren't as passionate as I was.While I realized that few people had as many jobs as I did, I attributed the career changes I made to my decades-long quest to find my true "calling." Since I've had three books published (and a fourth one is on the way), I also know what it's like to work hard on projects and follow them through to fruiti
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The Mozart Effect
2007-08-05 22:50:00
One of my favorite books on the healing power of music is The Mozart Effect: Tapping the Power of Music to Heal the Body, Strengthen the Mind, and Unlock the Creative Spirit by Don Campbell. The following are some quotes from this book."In an instant, music can uplift our soul. It awakens within us the spirit of prayer, compassion, and love. It clears our minds and has been known to make us smarter."Music can dance and sing our blues away. It conjures us memories of lost lovers or deceased friends. It lets the child in us play, the monk in us pray, the cowgirl in us line dance, the hero in us surmount all obstacles. It helps the stroke patient find language and expression...""Yet it is more than all those things. It is the sounds of earth and sky, of tides and storms. It is the echo of a train in the distance, the pounding reverberations of a carpenter at work.""From the first cry of life to the last sigh of death, from the beating of our hears to the soaring of our imagination


A Bipolar Store (Part 2)
2007-08-08 00:38:00
Thanks to everyone who contributed yesterday about what they'd like to see in a Bipolar Store . I had meant to post part two early today but I spent the day moving furniture while we had our carpets cleaned. Yikes! What a chore. Anyway, here it is...6. Puppies. Pet therapy is also effective and wouldn't it be healing to have a puppy adoption center for SPCA dogs? Did you know that petting an animal lessens stress?7. Aromatherapy. Again, this works in an adjunctive way. I'm big on bubble baths and I'd love to see a department with my favorite labels as well as soaps.8. Food. Well, I'm currently on a diet so naturally I'm thinking about food...all the time. But, I think that a juice bar, coffee bar, and hors deuvre's bar would be just the thing. Maybe we'd serve High Tea. (The graphic is from the British Council.)9. Massage. The newest addition at my local mall is a storefront where you go in for 15 minute massages. Looks good to me.10. Chapel. We could have a small chapel


A Bipolar Store (Part 1)
2007-08-08 00:00:00
Today, I had to go "wheel chair" shopping for my mother. As I looked around this store that has all kinds of equipment for those who have physical disabilities, I thought...what would I like to see in a Bipolar Store ? So...I'll share my top 10 list (actually 5 today and 5 tomorrow) if you'll share some of yours.1. Books. This is would be number one. However, I wouldn't just want to see books on bipolar disorder and depression (actually the less of these the better) but I would like to see a wide array of books on healing, wellness, music, art, spirituality, writing, gardening, hobbies, crafts, exercise, humor, travel, and other uplifting topics. And I would be be able to sit on cushions on a window box to read them. (The graphic is by Jessie Wilcox-Smith.)2. Greeting cards. I love greeting cards. And you know...if someone developed a line of greeting cards for people who suffer from depression and hypomania, they might make a fortune.3. Notebooks, pens, and pencils. Since I


Back on Monday
2007-08-09 23:22:00
I spent 4 1/2 hours yesterday (the traffic was awful; on days like this I imagine living anywhere other than Los Angeles) taking my mother to the eye doctor, lunch, and back to her assisted living facility. It took all of my energy (and the assistance of her wonderful caregiver) to make this happen. Mom got through it all right although she wasn't the happiest camper.I also had to see the opthamologist because it turned out that my new eyeglasses aren't giving me the clarity I need and a new test showed that I've got "irregular corneas." So I freaked. Actually, it's not as bad as it sounds and all I need are hard contact lenses although I've never worn contacts at all. Still, it's all going to be okay.But, I'm just pooped today. So...I'm going to take my son for his follow-up check-up with the oral surgeon who removed his wisdom teeth last week and then my husband, son, and I are going to see The Bourne Ultimatum! I love action adventure films--particularly when I'm stre
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Bipolar Anger (Part 2)
2007-08-15 11:53:00
I thought I was only going to write one post on bipolar anger but I need to follow up. However, first, I'd like to thank everyone--Marja, Syd, bamagal, jaypeefreely, Marie, and Gay Bipolar Guy--for their support. I so appreciated it.Now, here's what happened. Two nights ago when I was so angry and wrote the journal entry about how I felt, the act of writing made me feel better. And then I posted it--and thought that would make me feel better too--but it ended up making me feel worse.Why? Perhaps because I was sending forth such negative thoughts into cyberspace. Who knows? But the point is that last night, after spending a wonderful day with my husband and our good friends, I kept on dreaming about what I'd written. And each time I awakened, I felt worse and worse.I think the problem could be categorized as "rumination," which just means that you keep replaying the bad stuff. In my case, I kept on thinking and thinking about all of the ways I felt slighted during the worst


Bipolar Anger (Part 1)
2007-08-14 02:01:00
Although I had a lovely day, I got very angry later in the afternoon. It was personal; I'm not going to tell you what caused it, but I wrote the following in my journal:For ten years I watched people "walk away" from me, whether it was because of an illness that was unrelenting, erratic behavior (caused by medication), a weight gain (caused by medication) that made me a pariah in body-beautiful La-La land, a diminution of status (caused by jobs that were less prestigious), and a loss of social standing (caused by a reduction of income, due to my inability to work).I watched and I hurt and I mourned and I never said a word. What was there to say?"I'm sorry you don't want to be my friend because I'm no longer an editor of Architectural Digest magazine or the Director of Corporation and Foundation Relations at Occidental College or the successful author of The Mommy Guide."I'm sorry you're looking at me with pity because I'm 30 pounds overweight and one-third of my hair has fall
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The Bourne Ultimatum
2007-08-13 02:01:00
As I mentioned in my Friday post, my husband, son, and I went to see The Bourne Ultimatum. Steggo asked for my opinion of it and Tery said she's seen all three Bourne films. In answer to Tery, so have I. First, let me say that this one may have been my favorite of the three.Actually I have an eclectic taste in films. We have a great rental video place a block away and a terrific library with lots of rentals. We can get anything we want--from foreign films to Academy Award winners, to newly released on DVD, to classics. In the last few weeks, I've watched the Sound of Music, a PBS documentary on Ansel Adams, a few different Film Noirs staring George Raft (a new favorite of mine) and Edward G. Robinson, The History Boys, and The Last King of Scotland.But back to The Bourne Ultimatum. Why did I like it? I loved the scenery. When I was really sick, we couldn't travel very much (now it's a financial issue), and I love films that take place in different countries.I have always


Bipolar Bubbling
2007-08-17 02:01:00
I've had to postpone my Bipolar Bubbling event due to a lack of supplies. If you read Bipolar Anger (Part 2), you'll see that I devised a Bipolar Bubbling Away Anger Event. I planned to develop a Transgression List, read each one aloud, and free myself of it by using kids' bubble wands to send them into the universe.The problem is that I haven't had time to get the bubble wands I want. I Googled "bubble wands" and found this great place, Bubble Rock, that is about a 45 minute drive from my house. (And when I look at their wands, I'm thinking this bubbling activity would not only be great for me but for my mom and her friends at Casa Del Mar--that's not the real name but it will do.)So, I plan on a field trip to Bubble Rock and I won't be able to take it until next week. I do want to thank Marie, Gay Bipolar Guy, and JayPeeFreely for their comments on Wednesday's blog. Marie, yes I do believe that some people shouldn't be forgiven. Staggo, I know that bubbles pop and flo


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