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La situazione del video editing su piattaforma GNU/Linux, o comunque opensource è veramente deludente, e la situazione perdura da tempo, è una grave pecca che veramente non permette al sistema di battersi ad armi pari con gli O.S. proprietari pur essendo migliore in molte sue componenti. I... Leggi il resto dell' articolo

To view all C files in all subdirectories IN ONE COMMAND Just say: vi `find . -name “*.c” ` This will find all C files and outpud of find in the input to vi. While is vi, use the command... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

BedOS 15/07/2008 4:55:00 FreeBSD 14/07/2008 23:22:00 KDE3.5.2 15/07/2008 0:37:00 Lindows 4.5.130 15/07/2008 4:56:00 Linuxes 15/07/2008 4:50:00 Livingston 14/07/2008 21:53:00 Mozilla 15/07/2008 4:56:00 Netscape 14/07/2008 21:09:00 OpenOffice 15/07/2008 4:56:00 Opera 15/07/2008 4:56:00 ProFTPD 15/07/2008 5:01:00 Solaris Exp

La Shell Bash es aquella que viene por defecto configurada en casi todas las distros Linux en la actualidad, aunque existen alternativas a ella tales como zsh, ksh, tcsh, etc. Dos es otra Shell pero de Windows, obviamente con mucho menos funcionalidades que sus pares en Linux. Si por alguna extraña razón deseas que tu Shell de Bash en Linux se parezca a la Windows, sólo debes ingresar estos c

Por el RSS de Ubuntu Comandos he visto el comando cacademo que produce arte ASCII en colores Intente ejecutarlo pero me pidio instalarlo Al instalarlo me arrojo estos curiosos nombres de paquetes Luego de instalarlo, al ejecutarlo el resultado fue este: y mas…. Para cerrarlo presiona CTRL + C Comando util [...]

A new release of Absolute Linux, version 12.1.03, is ready for download; it is a release candidate as it is based on Slackware-current. Changes: "Updated firefox to 3.0.1; Updated nasm, dnsmasq and e2fsprogs, as well as ati, nv and intel video drivers; Added video drivers for Mach64... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

Q: “Which Linux distro do you use?” A: “I’ve used different distributions over the years. Right now I happen to use Fedora 9 on most of the computers I have, which really boils down to the fact that Fedora had fairly good support for PowerPC back when I used that, so I grew... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

Last weekend a friend was moaning about endless problems with Windows XP on his desktop PC. We installed Ubuntu 7.04 on it. The problems went away. That started me thinking about my own "daily driver" computer, a Dell Latitude that also runs Ubuntu 7.04, and it made me realize that I... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

Una interesante revisión que ha hecho Linux.com sobre Arch Linux donde resaltan como principales características la fusión que logra Arch entre lo moderno y lo antiguo de las distribuciones Linux, al contar con un actualizado y eficiente programa para la administración de paquetes como Pacman, y un sistema estilo BSD de configuración (etc/rc.conf). De todas estas cualidades, obviamente ya hab

Book Details*Author: Christopher Negus*Quality: Good*Publisher : Wiley*Language : English*Paperback: 888 pages*Format : PDF*Books Date : Tue Feb 19 2008*ISBN : 978-0-470-23019-0DescriptionThe Linux Bible 2008 Edition is the best first Linux book for new or migrating users. By focusing on the building-block nature of Linux, and offering true up-to-date descriptions of Linux technology, the Bible he

I’ve been taking the train to work for 4 years now. It ’s a 45 minute rambling ride in which I usually either read a book, sleep, or grab my laptop loaded up with Ubuntu and get some stuff done. Over time, I’ve collected a few funny remarks I’ve either over heard, or that [...]

There is a sizeable amount of free video software available on the Linux platform which is both fully featured and mature. Become a digital video editing master, turn your Linux machine into a Home Theatre box are two avenues that are explored in this article.

Installing Bastille is easy, since many distributions come with Bastille available as a package, like Debian, Gentoo and Red Hat Fedora. You can also download Bastille in the form of an RPM or as a source file. There are some pre-requisites you will need if you want to run Bastille in Hardening mode (you can run Bastille in Assessment mode without these). These are:     * perl-Tk and perl-Curs

Hace una semana fue liberada la nueva versión del kernel de linux. En el correo anunciando su liberación se encuentra un pequeño resumen: > It contains a number of assorted bugfixes all over the tree. And once > again, any users of the 2.6.25 kernel series are STRONGLY encouraged to > upgrade to this release. Lo curioso es [...]

In the last installment, I covered what was done to install LAMP on the server. But remember that we did not install SSH. Why is SSH important? It allows us to remotely connect to the server using tools such as PuTTY, so that we can execute commands, install software, etc. The command is simple: sudo [...]

Revisando en la web y encontre que varias distribuciones de linux se han actualizado, y dije que voy a crear un post con este contenido que a varios les interesas. Gentoo 2008.0 ¡Moderna, estable y versátil: Gentoo, es la optimización al límite! OpenSUSE 11.0 Versión gratuita y libre de la conocida distribución SUSE. Linux Mint 5 Distribución mentolada basada en Ubuntu   Xubuntu 8.04

You should be root when running any of the below mentioned commands. First go to the below link and find the latest kernel version. Currently its - linux-2.6.26 Download it using wget # wget -2.6.26.tar.gz And copy it under /usr/src # cp linux-2.6.26.tar.gz /usr/src Go to this directory # cd /usr/src And extract the kernel from the compressed

Linux only: Linux systems are constantly writing status updates to a variety of different system logs—great news for debugging developer-types, not so great for anyone trying to save battery life on the go or get more life from their hard drives. Ramlog is a straightforward program that has your Linux system write log updates to [...]

È stata rilasciata nei giorni scorsi la versione 2.6.26 del Kernel Linux, ultima versione stabile del Kernel Linux. È possibile scaricare la nuova versione da questo indirizzo: Linux Kernel 2.6.26 (47.2 MB), o da questo indirizzo: Linux Kernel 2.6.26 (59.7 MB). Il Changelog si trova a questa pagina. I cambiamenti in questa versione sono elencati in questa [...]

Documentário que conta a história dos hackers que se rebelaram contra o monopólio da Microsoft, criaram a empresa GNU, o sistema operacional Linux e o movimento Open Source & Free Software. O filme traz entrevistas com o criador da companhia, o jovem estudante finlandês Linus Torvalds (que aos 21 anos desenvolveu o projeto na Universidade de Helsinque), e com o ideólogo do movimento, Rich

Depois de nove release candidates e de cerca de 87 dias do ultimo grande lançamento do kernel (2.6.25), a versão final do Linux Kernel 2.6.26 já foi lançada. O Linux Kernel 2.6.26 traz-nos novidades como: Melhoramento do suporte a webcams. Inícios ao suporte ao futuro standard wireless 802.11. Memory tester integrado. Suporte para o OLPC. Suporte a x86 PAT (Page Attribute [...]

La televisión como sistema de entretenimiento ha evolucionado de manera sorprendente durante los años, y cada vez que una nueva tecnología aparece en vez de perecer, se integra y se hace más fuerte. MythTv es un programa muy reconocido y amado entre los usuarios de Linux, que se utiliza para ver televisión y manipularla desde el ordenador.

Cool looks of Windows Vista is one of its attractive feature. But it comes at price. Here is a Linuxdistribution, which has cool look of Windows Vista and of course its free.The Windows Vista look alike Linux operating system is Vixta.Org. This distribution has all the features required for a basic computer user. * It has Office software, Adobe PDF reader, Skype, aMSN, Java * Vixta.Org also supp

Virtualisation is a technology that can work wonders: provide a testing environment, enhance your processing power, consolidate your computing resources, decrease running costs, preserve legacy apps and more! Here’s how virtualisation can benefit you and why the Linux route really beats out the competition.

Virtualisation is a technology that can work wonders: provide a testing environment, enhance your processing power, consolidate your computing resources, decrease running costs, preserve legacy apps and more! Here’s how virtualisation can benefit you and why the Linux route really beats out the competition.

Así responde Joel Cohen, escritor y productor asociado de Los Simpsons, a la pregunta ¿Puedes explicar cómo Los Simpsons usan Linux? “Lo que mostramos está todo hecho a mano y animado digitalmente, y la película también lo fue. Sin embargo, debido a que estábamos escribiendo y re-escribiendo la película a toda pastilla, las escenas que escribíamos necesitaban ser vistas y apr

Ya está disponible la primera versión preliminar pública Alpha 2 del próximo Mandriva Linux 2009, con novedades significativas que incluyen un nuevo escritorio basado en KDE 4.1 Beta 2, GNOME 2.23.4 y el Kernel 2.6.26rc8. Al tratarse de una versión en intenso desarrollo, y con su transición de KDE3 a KDE4 todavía no completada, se desalienta su uso para actualizar una instalaci

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"From the days when installing a Linux distribution required a 300-page bible, to the days of Live CDs, the question "How do I learn Linux?" doesn't seem to have a ready answer." Packt Publishing

Se ha liberado la primera versión pública de la futura versión de Mandriva 2009 patrocinada por la compañía francesa del mismo nombre. Destinada a pruebas y testeo se desaconseja su uso en entornos productivos ni como actualización de otros sistemas Mandriva instalados.Entre las novedades junto al kernel 2.6.26rc7 se cita la inclusión del entorno de escritorio GNOME 2.23.4 y por defecto la

Se ha escrito mucho sobre la poca disposición que muestran las empresas para cambiar a Vista, ahora que Microsoft ha suspendido la venta de nuevas licencias de XP. La alternativa está ahí, y en lo que a costos se refiere, no parece haber dudas. La versión inglesa de Theinquierer ha calculado aproximadamente lo que una empresa podría ahorrarse si migrase a Linux en vez de actualizar sus sistem

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Oggi voglio condividere con tutti voi l’utilizzo di un software per effettuare backup completi di intere partizioni, hard disk o singole cartelle. Cercando in rete ho trovato parecchi articoli a riguardo, ma nella maggior parte dei casi, questa operazione viene effettuata impartendo i vari comandi direttamente dal terminale. Niente da dire nell’utilizzo di tale strumento, [...]

Oggi vi presento un piccolo tips: come gestire le immagini iso con linux. La cosa interessante è che non c’è bisogno di alcun software per navigare e/o lavorare con i file all’interno delle immagini iso. Attraverso il comando mount le possiamo montare direttamente e poi utilizzarle come se fossero normali cartelle. Per montarla eseguiamo il comando (da [...]

Windows Vista debuted to muffled applause, followed by lackluster sales. Up until June 30, cash-strapped businesses looking to avoid the cost of upgrading to new Vista-compatible hardware could still purchase trusty Windows XP. Now, however, Windows XP is available only as a costly “downgrade” from Windows Vista–if you buy a copy of Vista, you [...]

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La comunidad "Websecurity.es - Seguridad Informática" publico hace unos dias una serie de artículos donde se presento programas que podemos utilizar para hacer nuestros sistemas más seguros y más fiables:Blindaje de nuestro sistema (Parte I) - Bastille Blindaje de nuestro sistema (Parte II) - Harden Suse y OpenWall Blindaje de nuestro sistema (Parte III) - LIDS (Linux Intrusion Detection Syste

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Ever since I wrote about backing up your files online using Mozy (and then the OS X version), I’ve been approached by folks from BackBlaze, SugarSync and quite a few others. Most I just ignore now - often they’re lesser versions (in terms of features, storage space and cost) of software/products I’ve already written about. [...]

At first I found it quite difficult to use Pidgin Internet Messenger on Ubuntu Linux. Even though it allows signing into MSN, Yahoo! Messenger and Google Talk, it still doesn’t give me the real feel of an instant messenger. After a little research on the Internet, I was sad to find out that Microsoft does not [...]

A few weeks ago, the OpenSUSE Project announced the release of OpenSUSE 11.0, the “community” edition of SUSE Linux, Novell’s commercial Linux distribution. Like most recent distributions, OpenSUSE is made up of the usual suspects, including GNOME and KDE-based desktops, Live CD and full DVD installation options, and an online repository of software that can [...]

DSL is a very versatile 50MB mini desktop oriented Linux distribution. Damn Small is small enough and smart enough to do the following things: Boot from a business card CD as a live linux distribution (LiveCD) Boot from a USB pen drive Boot from within a host operating system (that´s right, it can run *inside* Windows) Run very nicely from an IDE Compact Flash drive via a method we call "frugal

Uno de los "antiguos" problemas o inconvenientes que presentaban las distribuciones Linux, tenía que ver con la configuración wifi / wireless, sobre todo de tarjetas inalambricas externas. Esto hoy por hoy ha sido solventado mediante scripts automágicos para la instalación y configuración de estas, especificamente en las distros más amigables para los usuarios noveles tales como Ubuntu, Open

If you are big fan of Linux then you would definitely want out to try this new Ubuntu-based Linux flavor known as WattOS. WattOS is a remaster of Ubuntu Linux in a lightweight fashion that runs quickly with low system requirements. The operating system will run on low power computers and recycled systems keeping you working [...]

Ya casi todas las distribuciones Linux importantes sacaron su versión 2008, y ahora es el turno de Gentoo, que si bien no es de las más populares, sigue actualizándose año a año.Las novedades que trae Gentoo 2008.0 son las siguientes:Instalador actualizadoSoporte mejorado de hardware gracias a la introducción del Kernel 2.6.24 que agrega todos los drivers nuevos desde la versión Gentoo 2007

Author: getzephyrSubject: Design for a word processorPosted: 09 Jul 08 at 10:46amHey,I'm starting a new project which requires me to build a wordprocessor...of sorts. The problem I'm facing is that I haven't got aclue where to start lol. I'm programming this for Linux. I spose Icould do it in Java so its cross-compatible... but as I say Iwouldn't know where to start.

We have seen many different types of Linux Operating system, every day there is some one developing another Linux flavor. Choice of Linux operating system is never ending. Planetwatt has developed one more flavor of Linux, wattOS which is suppose to be Ultra lightweight Operating system . The term lightweight is used in relation with energy, [...]

wattOS is a lightweight Linux operating system based in Ubuntu and powered by the Openbox window manager - a fast lightweight and extensible window manager. wattOS aims to reduce the power consumption of your desktop computers. It offers  the powerful and lightweight PCMan file manager to help you navigate through your files and folders. It also [...]

Utenti di poca fede… credevate davvero che vi avrei lasciato senza ulteriori informazioni suLinux-Ubuntu?Trovo normale e pressoché fisiologico scoraggiarsi all’inizio quando ci si cimenta con qualcosa che non si conosce, e si cerca aiuto dappertutto.Linux-Ubuntu rappresenta la novità (almeno per i neofiti del pc) per quanto riguarda il sistema operativo, e in quanto tale è chiaro che ci si

Sono sicuro che nonstante abbiate provato il nuovo Ubuntu non avete ancora deciso di passarci definitivamente.Per chi non vuole ancora abbandonare Windows ma è affascinato da questo SO deve sapere che oggi esiste un programma in cui nel nome è racchiuso il suo funzionamento ed è: Wine Is Not Emulator.In poche parole è un software che sotto linux fa credere alle applicazioni di avere windows c

Per chi volesse provare questo meraviglioso OS e vuole farlo senza sconvolgere il propio pc, senza fare partizioni o riavviare il pc, ma semplicemente lanciarlo da Widows, oggi puo farlo semplicemete installando questo emulatore che ci permette di far girare Linux direttamente da Windows.In questa guida useremo la distro Ubuntu 7.10 che può girare su sistemi Windows 98, NT, 2000, XP o Vista dire

For basic HTML web sites, there is no apparent difference.As you may have guessed, Windows and Linux accounts are differentiated by the operating system platform that the server runs on.Windows is a Windows 2000 (or the new Windows server 2003), which are both very much like the Microsoft Windows 98, XP, etc...Except, web server versions are more specialized for hosting web sites and server

È stato annunciato ieri il rilascio della nuova versione di Gentoo Linux, Gentoo Linux 2008.0, nome in codice “It’s got what plants crave”. Tra le novità di questa versione una versione aggiornata dell’installer, un supporto hardware migliorato, l’introduzione di Xfce al posto di GNOME sul LiveCD. Sono compresi nella nuova versione Portage 2.1.4.4, il kernel 2.6.24,

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Oggi vi voglio presentare qualcosa che c'entra veramente poco con l'informatica, ma che può risultare simpatico e divertente .Su ThePaperShaper possiamo trovare il papercraft del famoso Tux, il pinguino del nostro amato Linux.Se mentre lo costruite vi sentite un po Francesco Mucciaccia non preoccupatevi, fa parte degli effetti collaterali :-DDownload Tux e Istruzioni (in inglese)Fonte

Most common method used by hackers is inserting arbitrary codes into your site. It may be a blog, forum or a simple html website. Peter from theblog.ca has provided a php script which is capable of sending e-mail when file changes in your Linux hosting account. You can run this script as a Cron, hourly [...]

“Implementación de Servidores con GNU/Linux” es un libro escrito por el Mexicano Joel Barrios Dueñas donde pretende  cubir gran cantidad de aspectos relacionados con el sistema operativo GNU/Linux, desde la instalación del mismo, comandos básicos del sistema hasta la configuración e Implementación de servidores para diferentes fines. A continuación les dejo el indice del libro

A equipa responsável pelo Gentoo Linux acabou de lançar uma nova versão da sua distribuição. O Gentoo Linux 2008.0, codename “It’s got what plants crave”, tem muitas novidades incluindo um instalador actualizado, melhoramento ao suporte de novo hardware e uma mudança para XFCE ao GNOME no LiveCD. Os LiveDVD’s [...]

As soon you as you finished issuing linux commands, these commands are being saved and stored to a shell’s history file, which you can further review to recall old and recently issued shell commands. The file is being saved to .bash_history file, which is located under your home folder. Each... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

When running on a windows machine, a fair amount of problems can be solved with a simple Ctrl+Alt+Del. For those of you who still don't get it the task manager comes up and you can kill any process you want. Moreover, if you want a process to run into the background you need to make [...]

Sharing files over network have been very usual network activity in any type of networks whether private or public network. NFS is only way of sharing files located from server over a network of hosts. Here’s a quick run down on how top mount an existing read-only NFS share folder over a... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

BTnext é uma comunidade portuguesa de BitTorrent que utiliza um programa com o mesmo nome, mas que está escrito apenas para Windows, impossibilitando, assim, os utilizadores do Linux, mais concretamente do Ubuntu, terem um programa nativo para fazer os downloads através deste tracker. No entanto, a última actualização do Wine possibilitou o quase perfeito funcionamento do BTnext no Linux e,

Revisando la edición norteamericana de Mecanica Popular podemos encontrar una interesante guía para aprovechar las ventajas del procesador cell de la playstation 3 transformandola en un supercomputador de escritorio, el que contará con un excelente rendimiento y capacidad de computo, superior a muchos de los ofrecidos en el mercado. Para esto necesitamos realizar una serie [...]

Poseidon Linux based on open source software and aimed at the Brazilian/International scientific community was designed as a friendly and complete desktop. This operating system is based on Ubuntu... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

Did you install the latest version of iTunes for Linux? Well unfortunately there isn’t such a thing, but Songbird is a really good alternative. Whenever you need a alternative to a Windows application for Linux "The Linux Alternative Project " should be your first stop. LinuxAlt.com has a list of popular Windows software and [...]

Would like to run a Linux environment inside of your Windows? Well, it’s always interesting having another OS in our machine, of you course the PC should be powerful.So, there is a free application called Ulteo Virtual Desktop, this free application installs a virtual Linux environment inside of your Windows. After install this application you will have a panel in your Windows desktop where you

This handy, compact guide teaches you to use SUSE Linux as the experts do: from the command line. Try out over 1000 commands to find and get software, monitor system health and security, and access... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

O meu Arch Linux está funcionando perfeitamente, parece que enfim enfrente uma distribuição para ficar no lugar do Slackware, webcam está funcionando muito bem, isso não podia faltar, senão a namorada ia reclamar do Linux (coisa que não é novidade nenhuma.) Ta faltando apenas instalar alguns jogos, diversão não pode faltar, não é verdade? Até porque [...]

O projecto Sabayon Linux já lançou uma nova versão da sua distribuição GNU/Linux e agora também são oficialmente patrocinados pela NLnet Foundation. As novidades mais apelativas são: um novo visual, Linux kernel 2.6.25.9, X.Org 7.3, Compiz Fusion 0.7.6 e um novo package manager chamado de Entropy. Algumas screenshots do Sabayon 3.5 podem ser visualizadas aqui. [...]

Уверен, что многие из обитателей компьютерного мира любят выехать за природу, да порыбачить. Что для этого нужно? Некоторым нужно обязательно выпить на рыбалке, ибо традиция. Кто-то любит варить душистую ушицу из свежеп

Everything that you use or save on a computer is stored as a file on disk drives of some sort. Programs are stored as files. Other types of information, such as word processing files, spreadsheets, and photographs, are stored as files, too. In fact, Linux organizes every resource (except network connections) as a file. All of these resources together are considered a file system. Linux interac

Da non perdere, potrebbe essere un modo facile ed inaspettato per passare a "Linux" o, almeno, per provarlo.Impariamo ad utilizzare, gratuitamente, le enormi risorse che ci offre il software libero.Questo è solo l'inizio, altre sorprese sono già in serbo, voglio darvele un poco per volta. Feed al sito

In qualche post passato vi ho parlato delle distribuzioni Live di Linux, cioè quelle comode versioni che si avviano tramite cd e non lasciano alcuna traccia nel pc.Queste versioni presentano varie utilità: la prima in assoluto è quella che ci permette di provare la versione di Linux senza installare nulla, cosicché se la versione non è di nostro gradimento basterà rimuovere il cd e non c'

En Linux Comandos hablan sobre los comandos de linux y para que sirven. Entre estos estan estos comandos "ociosos" que no tienen ninguna utilidad y solo es para cuando estas ocioso xD. aptitude moo  Si lo "molestas" dandole el parametro "-v" repetidamente te da un huevo de pascua. Este comando viene por defecto instalado en Ubuntu 8.04 [...]

A Practical Guide to Ubuntu Linux Prentice Hall PTR | 2007-12-28 | ISBN: 013236039X | 1200 pages | PDF | 7.78 MB The Most Complete, Easy-to-Understand, and Useful Guide to Ubuntu Linux Desktops... [[ This is a content summary only. Visit my website for full links, other content, and more! ]]

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